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I Take It All Back, Raven-Symone

October 20, 2008
Evil Beet
Raven-Symone
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Earlier today, I said some very mean things about how you need to focus on losing weight right now. That was a short-sighted thing for me to say. I didn’t have all the facts. Now that I have read your most recent MySpace blog, it is clear that your weight is not the most pressing issue you face today. The most pressing issue you face today is your inability to write in English.

Ahem.

I WAS BORN WITH MESSED UP EYE BROWS, LOOK AT THE COSBY SHOW THEY GROW UPSIDE DOWN AND ON THE WRONG EYE. THAT IS MY PARENTS DOING AND MY BROTHER HAS THE SAME ONES. IM SORRY IF I WANT TO GO OUT ONE DAY AND NOT FILL THEM IN. IM SURE OTHER PEOPLE DONT GO OUT ALL THE TIME WITH THEIR FACE BEAT (MAKE-UP TERM, FLAWLESS MAKE UP). MY BODY SIZE; OOOHHH MY GOD!!!! HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN… IV BEEN ON TV FOR 21 YEARS, AND IV ALWAYS BEEN THICK…..OK!!!!
NOW IF ANYONE KNOWS MY FAMILY, ALL OF THE WOMEN EXCEPT FOR A FEW, STRUGGLE WITH KEEPING WHAT IS A SOCIALLY EXCEPT-ABLE WEIGHT. WHEN I STRESS I GAIN, WHEN IM HAPPY WHO KNOWS… I HAD A LOT OF PERSON THINGS HAPPEN TO ME AT THE END OF THE SHOW, DEALING WITH FAMILY, AND MY EX-BOYFRIEND CHEATED ON ME AND I HAD TO BREAK UP WITH HIM (LISTEN TO LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME, AND SECRETS) AND LIKE ANY FEMALE WITH A PROBLEM, DELT WITH IT A CERTAIN WAY! ID LOVE IF THE INDUSTRY COULD ONE DAY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBESITY AND FAT AND THICK AND THIN AND SICK. I AM A THICK GIRL, I HAVE NEVER BEEN OVER A SIZE 12, I CAN RUN, AND I TRY MY BEST TO EAT RIGHT ALL THE TIME. I AM NOT THE TEXT BOOK WEIGHT THAT THEY SAY I SHOULD BE, BUT EVERYDAY I HAVE MY OWN PERSONAL STRUGGLES, AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE NEED TO RESPECT THAT.

Except-able, Raven?

Are you fucking serious?

AND WHAT’S WITH THE ALL CAPS? IT’S HARDER FOR ME TO BE NICE TO YOU WHEN YOU ARE CONSTANTLY YELLING AT ME.

I’ll tell you what: I’ll take the time out of my day to try to understand your point of view if you’ll put the cheeseburger down for long enough to use a spell-check.

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  • there are times when i am reminded exactly why i love this blog, and shouldn’t take it for granted. this is one of those times.

  • Earlier I was going to defend Raven until I got distracted by oddly enough, a cheese burger. But after reading that I just feel sad and hungry :(
    You would think that sometime during her “Ever amazing Career” she’d have found time and or money for a personal tutor. Or at least figured out that she can HIRE PEOPLE to write for her.
    On the upside wasn’t kidding when she said she was thick.. She just forgot to mention it was “thick headed”
    Stupid fat bitch.

  • seriously beet? you write for a living. shes an actress. get over it already. picking away at her grammatical errors is petty. youre suppose to be above that!

  • @jes:

    Let me get this straight. I’m a writer, so of course I’m supposed to be a good speller; that’s my job. Raven-Symone, at the age of 22, cannot be expected to spell “acceptable” and “dealt” correctly. Because she’s not a professional writer.

    She’s an actress, so of course she’s supposed to look good on camera; that’s her job. And, yet, she doesn’t look good on camera.

    Tell me: what, exactly, can I reasonably expect this adult woman to do with competence?

  • I definitely agree that Raven should have spent a few more of those 21 years working for television, in a class room. Child actors are always so fucked up. Though she appears well adjusted, her schooling was clearly neglected by the Disney Corporation. Someday, I too, will sell my soul to the Free Market. This letter sustains the fight another day.

  • @Beet: The camera puts 10 lbs on you. She has like 14 or 15 cameras on her at all times. Not to mention, do you know how much upsidedown-wrong-eye eyebrows weigh?!!!

    @Raven-Symone: DA KAMRA PUTS 10 POUNDS ON YOU AND MAKES YOU THICK. YOU HAV LIKE 14 OR 15 KAMRAS ON U ALL DA TIME. AND, MESSED UP EYE BROWS MAKES YOU THICK. DAMN.

  • @ Down Unda…..funniest comment I have read in a long time! No offense Beet, but that comment ‘trumped’ your post!

  • OK, Beet, you’re completely right about her horrible grammar and spelling (it seems to be an epidemic among young starlets), but the cheeseburger comment was just plain nasty.

    Those among us who have never struggled with our weight or with regular exercise are extremely lucky.

  • oh i dont know, beet. she use to look good at some point right? i just feel for her. given that she has grown-up in a spotlight i think she appears to be reasonably well adjusted -in comparison to othe disney stars- shes dealt with alot and is only human. and i only feel for her because i recently had what i thought was my entire world ripped apart. started antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds and when i came off of them gained like 15lbs.

    anyways,

    the post just didnt seem to be characteristic of your typical work!?!? im confused beet, are you feeling ok?

  • Well, you certainly have a fan base, Beet. They can have you. Your perfect spelling and grammar do not compensate sufficiently for your base humour. You are very Perez-like in my estimation – but even less original. Too bad. I hope you cringe when your adult self looks back in time. I will never reward you – or your advertisers – by returning to this blog. It will not be a struggle.

  • Why are you acting so personally offended by this girl’s weight? You are seriously being harsh and oddly *furious* about it!

    The first post was a bit harsh and Perez-ish and it clearly upset her. She sounds immature (reared by the Mouse House) and very vulnerable, yet you tell her to “put down the cheeseburger?”

    If this girl commits suicide tonight, I do hope you’ll leave this post up and stand by your comments!

    Totally lame — I won’t be coming back…

  • SSSSSnap. Dayum beet. Give the girl a break. She carries her weight okay, and it does the youngins some good that “celebs” can be all sizes. That post was just not like you, gf.

    And to EW, beet is nothing like perez – full of shit – hilton. She actually has a personality, edits/spell checks her stuff, is funny as hell and real. Comparing the beet to that asshole, agenda pushing, painfully insecure turd is just soooo offensive.

    Is that how you wanted me to say it Beet? Now, about those Madonna tickets for the Atlanta show….front center.

  • I’ve never hated anything you’ve ever said before. But omg beet. are you serious? You don’t have to be a certian size to be a actress, If she was a model then yes. But there is plenty of good actors out there that are big. Does that make them bad at their job? No. xx

  • You know what? She really is not that fat. She’s got a big frame, and she’s carrying some chub on it, but she’s just overweight.

    Unfortunately, her English skills really do leave something to be desired. She makes LiLo’s look good.

  • I have been reading this blog for a couple of weeks now, because I am a fan of your biting wit and cynicism. This post really disappointed me though. I gotta say, I lost respect. As many before me have mentioned, there is a fine line between wit and cruelty. I don’t understand the outright nastiness of this post. Surely you could rise above that?

  • Too funny. This is a celeb gossip blog. By definition, it’s going to be full of stuff that celebs would rather not have said about them, and it is. Everyone was fine with this until… weight came up.

    As far as talking trash about celebs, I have absolutely no sympathy for them. It’s part of their job. It’s part of the reason they are paid obscene amounts of money for generally poor to mediocre work.

  • Here’s what: *I’M* overweight, and I think that Raven needs to lose some weight. Here’s why: It’s her f”ing job. When you’re a celebrity, your job is to be perfection, what common-folk strive to be. If all you have to do is show up, have your hair and make-up done, read some lines/sing some notes, you’d better have to suffer in some other aspect of life, and that had better include NEVER being above a size 4. Do you hear me, Kim Kar-ASS-ian?

    Get off your high-horses, people. No one likes to see a chub-ball on TV. Stop your lying.

  • ROCK ON BEET!!!!!!!!!

    LOL Down unda!!!!

    I started reading the comments, and I was like….huh?? wha?? ….It says I already commented on this, but I have not. This has happened several times lately. WTF??? who is this OTHER LYNN that has shown up and started posting lately??!! I am Beet’s origional LYNN. I am THE ONE, and THAT ONE (lynn). You need to come up with a new name!!! grrrrrrrrr waaaaaaaaa

  • Beet you are hilarious!

    Oh and nobody, NOBODY has an excuse to be so shit at spelling on a computer. It’s called spell check. Mine is automatic. Most spell checks are these days. Such a “talented”actress like Raven should be able to afford that kind of shit.

  • Why, when she’s so eager to let us know that she’s OK with being ‘thick’, does Raven also make sure that we know she’s never been ‘over a size 12’? Doesn’t sound like she believes herself too much…it’s sad.

  • Even without spell check, girlfriend should know at least some basic english grammar. There’s no excuse for such crappy writing.

    Lol @ Down Unda and Beet, you rock! Party on!
    And I completely agree with (the other) Lynn. How can you compare the shit that is Perez Hilton with the whiz that is Evil Beet?!

  • beet: I think she did that “EXCEPT-ABLE” thing on purpose.. she was making reference to the exception that famous people are thin, when in reality, not all of them are [naturally]; she wasn’t referring to actual acceptance.

    and i agree with Hallie.. this is not a flattering view of beet.

  • Hm… yeah, I agree ’bout the cheeseburger comment… just cause I know Beet likes Burger King, so that means that she too needs to put down her cheeseburger and HELP fat whats-her-face learn how to be a better writer…

  • Beet, pardon my ignorance and sorry but does your site really get that many hits that she was notified of your comments? Or does she google herself? If its the latter, nuff said.

  • Do any of the ‘celebrity’ bloggers make sense? Courtney Love for example, where you need to drop a hit of something before you read her stuff just so you can half-way follow it?

  • beet: ok it would be kind of funny if a human being weren’t involved. mostly it was way cruel. why would you, someone who struggles with her own weight, be so hard on someone else? you know, not all overweight people sit around munching on cheeseburgers all day. it’s funny how weight-discrimination is still acceptable. how is that? yes, granted, many overweight people simply eat too much, but many also have metabolic issues (thyroid disease, for ex. ), weight-gain due to medications (anti-depressants are notorious for this), genetic predispositions toward corpulence. and knowing how much you suffer with your own slight weight issues, can’t you imagine how miserable and hopeless many severely overweight people are? how does ridiculing them make you feel better? where’s the compassion? honestly!

  • Well, you certainly have a fan base, Beet. They can have you. Your “perfect spelling and grammar” do not compensate sufficiently for your base humour. You are very Perez-like in my estimation – but even less original. Too bad. I hope you cringe when your adult self looks back in time.

  • she has definitely been over a size twelve at points in her life. i don’t see that as a reason to judge her, but i’m just saying…

  • “many overweight people simply eat too much, but many…”

    Give me a break. The cause of being overweight IS eating too much for the amount of exercise you do. If circumstances change, you adapt. I’m getting older, so I need to start eating better/less or start exercising more.

    Genetics, medication, thyroid? Rarely. It’s lifestyle. If these were the real causes, why is everybody getting fatter and fatter over the last 20 years? Either we’re undergoing genetic changes like those that created the X-Men or we are making horrible lifestyle CHOICES.

    It’s gluttony. Deal with it.

  • Beet, I think your posts on Raven were cool. Look at the header on the homepage, people – “It’s not personal. It’s just gossip.”

    Having said that, my thoughts on Raven:
    1. Can’t act.
    2. Can’t spell
    3. Size 12? Yeah, right!

  • Zing!

    Beet 1 Raven 0.

    @Raven; Thick bodied?! Dude, I realize that genetics makes you more susceptible to being overweight, and while that may be the case for yourself, you have to be providing an environment that allows your body to become overweight. You can’t be exercising a decent amount and eating right and still be overweight. Your body needs certain ingredients and environmental factors in order to store that much adipose tissue. Denial, denial, denial! So maybe while your out educating yourself on your native tongue you can educate yourself on basic human nutrition.

  • I hardly doubt that Beet is the only blogger on the internet who pointed out that a.) Raven looks HUGE and B.) That dress she was wearing did NOTHING to make her look smaller.

    Raven had a waist at some point, I remember seeing it on “Thats so Raven” and whoever said “No one wants to see ugly people on tv..” you’re wrong, I love seeing them on TV. Ugly untalented people fill me with hope AND joy. Which is probably why so many people tune into AI’s tryouts ;)

  • Umm… You don’t have to be a professional writer to have to be expected to spell things correctly. Or you know, coherently.

  • OMG Down Unda sooo needs a job here. If Beet won’t hire you, want a job at Gravy and Biscuits? :)

    I don’t have a problem with women of all sizes acting. Queen Latifah? I’d love her no matter what she looked like (or how horrible her movies were!). I just have to ask though, how on earth is she a size 12? Is she 2 feet tall? This is what size 12 looks like: http://www.modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=392671 I should know! (okay, now commence fat jokes in my direction) I just think it’s important to eat right and exercise and be healthy for your size, and homegirl isn’t looking too healthy.

  • There is NO excuse for poor spelling to the extent that Raven demonstrated. How she was able to get her GED (I assume she has one) is beyond me. Even an eighth grader should be able to spell better than that!

  • okay, so you must be one of those women that are a size 0, eat everything in site and wonder why its so hard for “the fat girl” think of it like this BEET, how hard was it for you to put down the cigs?
    no problem, right? WRONG.

    Not everyone can be as perfect as you, mizspellin and all!!!

    usually I love your column, but DAMN this pissed me off!!!!

  • Jessica, you’re a good looking woman. I’m going to the movies now; I’ve got a craving for popcorn.

  • No more self-promotion here. I’ve totally Peter Gibbons-ed all my duties as a blogger/model/contribution to society. Quarter-life crisis, and all that!

  • I never understand why Americans feel the need to rush to the defense of overweight women (like it’s their god-given right to be obese without anyone commenting) or stupid celebrities. The fact that Raven makes money from being famous means she’s fair game to talk about, and the fact that she can apparently walk upright and is an adult means that her atrocious spelling is fair game. You do not have to be a doctor or psychologist to see that overeating because of depression over a boyfriend is unhealthy; you do not have to be a professional writer for their to be a reasonable expectation that you can use spell-check.

  • i think she looks very unhealthy…compare her at size 12 to our poster jebbica at size 12. neither is a skinny girl but jebbica looks healthy and well proportioned. raven looks lumpy, and kind of stretch armstrong-like. she needs to lose weight while she is young, because as she gets older the health problems will appear and it will be much harder to get in shape. so yeah, girlfriend needs to diet and excersise. and buy a dictionary. as for beet, she is obsessed with her own weight (witness the many oh-so- boring posts about her ridiculous fad dieting, etc) so of course she is obsessed weight. her posts were harsh but true.

  • Jessica, don’t worry, I’m not a fetishist. I’d rather eat fresh popcorn with you than eat stale popcorn off you.

  • Beet has made it public that she struggles with her own weight issues… so this makes the entire thing look catty and weak.

  • Raven needs to lose some weight…she was gorgeous when she was just thick, but now, she is borderline fat! She is a role model to thousands of little girls and being fat and defending it is just as bad as being anorexic and defending it. These girls look up to celebs and I feel it is their duty to not neccisarily be skinny, but definatly strive for healthy.

    Raven you need to lose some weight and tone up!

  • Beet, I love you.

    Raven,
    I seriously missed how effed up your eyebrows were

    BECAUSE YOU ARE SOOOOO FAT.

    So really, the theory here is dont change a thing.

    If you lose the weight your eyebrows will take center stage and yes they are exceptionally bad.
    I can’t seem to name a worse set of brows,
    not even madonna’s kid lourdes, she reminds me of a young beautiful Frida Kahlo.
    And if she plucks them shes fine, not so much in your case.

    I mean you could try to shave them off and do the chola-brow thing. Anything would be an improvement over those dead catapillars on your grease bloated face.

  • I changed my mind

    RAVEN:

    Put down the cheesy fried bubblegum flavored ice cream chicken wings and pick up a lean cuisine and a bottle of Alli.

  • Not being a writer is not an excuse to be unable to use the correct word, or spell the word you want/need to use, as a teen. When your’e an adult, it’s even more ridiculous. Of course, I assume that she had the same education I received at a public school by the age of 12. I’m not a writer by trade, but I seldom mispell words although I forgo the use of spell check, and I can’t recall the last time I used the wrong word entirely. She knows she’s in the public eye. If she can’t write a coherent paragraph, she can hire someone who can.

  • Who cares. Honestly, is THAT so important? she’s emotional and she is the generation of ”txting” and ”poor grammar” skills. However, that does not mean she is uneducated. It IS A BLOG! not a term paper. Not a THESIS! get a clue and move on to other things like, her weight.

  • I really couldn’t care less if raven is fat or not. but she’d probably lose ten pounds by taking off those god awful earrings.

  • I would mention that your cattiness makes you look bad and not her but I’m sure you don’t care. You jump all over her because she misspelled a word? Seriously? And it’s not even that horrible of a mistake because Accept and Except sound the same so she just chose the wrong word. Oh I know.. lets lynch her because it’s a slow gossip day for Beet. You know Beet I really do like you and the way you write but sometimes you disappoint me.

  • jemms, seriously?! You think it’s alright to make a complete fool of oneself by being unconcerned about what you’re writing just because it won’t be read by an academic? That kind of thinking is exactly what’s wrong with generation”txting/poor grammar”.

  • Sorry, Beet, but this is illogical:
    “She’s an actress, so of course she’s supposed to look good on camera; that’s her job. And, yet, she doesn’t look good on camera.”

    No, as an actress, her job is to act, not look flawless at all times. Some of the best stage and screen actors and actresses are definitely not the most beautiful, and you should know this. I personally can’t speak to her acting because I’m not in the right age group, but I just needed to point that out.

  • I’m still trying to figure out the “wrong eye” comment. How could her eyebrows be growing over the wrong eye? She has two eyes and two brows; does it matter which goes over which? I’m so confused. And yeah, Raven’s overweight and Beet is being mean here. But as for the comments about it being celebrities’ job to be perfect. It’s actually not. If she’s an actress, her job is to act. Criticize her acting ability not her looks. Stating the obvious here: perfect looks aren’t a prerequisite for acting. It’s just that we, the public, like to project our fantasies on them. So it makes all the vitriol about who’s too thin or who’s too fat really our problem, not theirs.

  • size 12? bullshit. This girl is much bigger than me and I am a size 12. I dont usually hate on the girl (even though I abhor ‘Thats So Raven’ and most of the stuff shes in, but size 12? seriously? Are you saying size 12-ers are fat? do I really look as big as you look to me? or are you buying that size 12 shit from some ‘special’ store?

  • Her typing in caps DOES NOT mean she’s yelling. She’s probably just lazy, in more ways than one. That said, whoever believes being overweight is due to overeating and lack of exercise, TRY BEING PUT ON LITHIUM, SIMVASTIN, BETA BLOCKERS, or ASTHMA MEDICATION. Those medications pile on the pounds and there’s not the slightest thing you can do about it. Anyway, celebs who take umbrage to being blogged about should understand and accept it’s just something that goes with the territory. You’re in the media spotlight and that makes you fair game. Personally I enjoy a bit of controversy and whilst what Beet said was catty, it achieved its purpose in getting everyone talking. QUIT PLAYING IT SAFE, BEET! TURN UP THE BITCHINESS!

  • Wow, never over a size 12? Geez, I’d like to know what brands of clothing you can wear at 170-80 odd lbs and STILL be a 12. yeah, right.

  • @Shiri. OMG!!! yes, I do. Relax, dude and have fun in life. Do not worry. You are so uptight. OMG!!!! seriously. Now it’s your turn to insult/inquire or add a zinger. Cheers.

  • “Now it’s your turn to insult/inquire or add a zinger.”? Huh?
    Whatever.
    Oh, and I love being uptight and educated. So much more fun.

  • if i recall correctly, beet, you’re a fatty too. diet and exercise all you want, that’s still what you are. just leave her alone, until the paparazzi get pics of her with a cheeseburger hanging out of her mouth i suggest you back off. i’d love to see what double digit size you would balloon to if you were actually famous.

  • LOL here we go again…

    I’m sure Beet is enjoying the money that she’s raking in while you guys rip each other the pieces. Good job Beet!

  • Oh, and @quirkykitten

    Stretch Armstrong was the FIRSt thing that came to my mind upon seeing that picture of Raven!! Great minds, eh? ;)

  • Proves to me what I have believed all along: Celebrities are just regular people just living their lives like the rest of us. Some educated, some dumb as rocks. Seems really immature for a 22 year old by her writing. Thick physically and mentally, apparently.

  • wow I cant believe how unbelievably rude some of you people are for commenting on Raven’s weight. You must be jealous because she is really pretty!
    =).

    oh and Beet, poking at her grammatical errors was the only thing you could do to get back at her. That is HILARIOUS.

    Raven=1
    Beet=0

  • To everyone that says you have to be thin to be an actress – what??! You have to be thin to get many roles but it’s ridiculous to think that all actors should look like the ideal person. I hate to use her as an example because I like her and I don’t want to make fun but, Kathy Bates gets roles does she not? And I love you Beet but again, as many have said the cheeseburger comment was pretty low and really sad to hear coming from a woman’s mouth. Do you not have your own weight struggles? And regarding her grammar problems – she isn’t getting paid to write and maybe she doesn’t edit her posts. And from this we all conclude that she needs to go back to school?? Fuck people.

  • Shes angry and insecure, like SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE, and you just preyed on it. You are proud of that? I’ve seen your pictures on this site and you could pass for a forty year old. No one picks on you for that. Leave her alone.

  • Spell-check on Microsoft Word and Firefox doesn’t catch “except-able” as being spelled incorrectly anyway. I don’t think it’s that uncommon of a mistake, so stop being such a fucking insecure bitch about her. The type of humor you’re going for only works if you actually succeed in being funny.

    And the CAPSlock shouldn’t surprise you. It is MySpace after all, what do you expect?

  • @Shiri. Huh? or rather, pardon? have a nice day and remember this: people who usually have alot of money (especially ”old money”) do not talk about money. Now people who are educated, generally do not go around speaking/writing ”perfect gammar” and they certainly do not comment/say, ” I am educated!!!” then quip back some inane comment the other person commented on. I am exhausted! I love being educated and laid-back. Cheers, dear.

  • hahah…. @ “Why, when she’s so eager to let us know that she’s OK with being ‘thick’, does Raven also make sure that we know she’s never been ‘over a size 12′? Doesn’t sound like she believes herself too much…it’s sad.”

    Right??? I am so sick of people being like “I”M FAT AND BEAUTIFUL!!!! GET OVER IT!!!! (BUT I AM NOT THAT FATT!) it so reminds me of like Tyra Banks flipping out about people calling her fat… so then she had to run around in a bathing suit, to “prove” that she wasn’t that fat… and like J Love Hew…. being all…. eff you guys, I’m like a size two….

    like, either “EXCEPT” your body or don’t…. don’t argue, like, I am big and happy about it AND ALSO freak out about how “big” everyone thinks she is.

    and just so you guys know, this whole Raven thing has been all over A LOT of blogs— like bestweekever and dlisted as well. So it’s not like Beet is the only one.

    I LOVE YOU BEET!!!!! SO funny!!!

    if you guys actually think Raven is pretty or whatever, I guess we just have very different views on beauty. I think she looks “BEAT”

  • and Jennnn…. what are you talking about? Beet is thin as hell. Haven’t you seen any pictures?? Sure, she will talk about wanting to diet or exercise or whatever…. but she is really, very thin.

  • wow i see you are still a stupid CUNT. and your site sucks as do you, you are not even funny. and then we wonder why ACTRESSES ARE ANOREXIC YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT.

  • You can reasonably expect Raven–an adult competent woman– to do what Beet, an adult competent woman, can only do—hide behind Spell Check. Bravo. You sooo raised education to whole new stratosphere. BTW it’s kinda ironic how that fat gene study came out today. I’m hoping by 2012 we can add bloggers and their blogs to that list of self indulgent behavior which is responsible for self destructive behavior and societies woes. Maybe there’s a blogger gene out there waiting to be discovered.

  • i love you beet.
    you make me laugh so hard. People who call you names and diss your site clearly do not understand the art of blogging.
    I don’t blog, but i sure love reading it.
    keep it up beet!

  • one of my favorite things ever: people bitching about a specific blog, saying everything about the blog sucks, saying they hate the blogger etc etc etc….. AND STILL ALWAYS READING IT. AND EVEN COMMENTING.

    get a life. I may be reading this blog, but it’s because I LIKE IT. I don’t run around on blogs to be all “Just so you know, I still disagree with you!!! I still hate you!!! Man this blog sucks!!!”

    Jesus. Get a hobby that you ACTUALLY ENJOY….. you know…… besides overeating.

  • I am just irritated in general. I have been busy as hell with school work… which shows why I feel like bitching a lot.

    and I am thin, and have been quite thin for YEARS. I have gotten SO MUCH SHIT for it. I’ve had coworkers joke about me having eating disorders for years… like almost a decade. I have come to see that it is typically the overweight ones that are the cruelest. But like constant, mean, snarky comments. But it was cool, cuz I am thin, and apparently people want to be thin, so they could say whatever they wanted to me. had I ever responded with even a “whatever, you’re just jealous fatty”- ALL HELL WOULD HAVE BROKEN LOOSE.

    I used to work in retail as well, and you couldn’t imagine how many nasty comments you get about your weight in general. And I was just working at a stupid store- I wasn’t an actress or anything.

    I think this is why I get so (overly – I know) irritated when people FLIP out when fat people are called out. Being called fat may hurt, but so does being constantly ridiculed for being thin.

  • oh and people who just comment to be all “you suck”— I mean, seriously. I don’t clog up comments on like fox news blogs to be all “ewww I hate you guys! your views suck!!!!!” that’s childish and pointless. Arguments are fun, but just wanting to make a point that you don’t like what you’re reading (but for whatever reason KEEP COMING BACK)… I mean, c’mon. Who is going to take you seriously?

    this is a blog, for god’s sake. if you don’t like it, don’t read it. I don’t see anything more obvious than that.

  • Hmmm…. Beet, I think you’re being kind of bitchy here. I normally LOVE everything you blog, and I really enjoy your writing voice but I feel you missed the mark here. So her writing skills suck… I wish I could find the humor in that. She’s not a size 0, 2, 4, or 6. She is thick, perhaps a little overweight, along with the majority of America. That cheeseburger comment was tactless. I’m glad your blog isn’t that known because I would hate for her to see that.

  • @ThatLisa

    weight issues much? you are right–this IS a blog. this is how a blog rolls. anyone can bitch about anything they want– as much as they want–until their little heart wears out. This isn’t Fox and Friends or CNN so if you want love notes to the editor you can start by taking your advice and go where a lot of like minded individuals show up to have the same opinion on everything–give and take a few nut jobs here and there. maybe it might occur to you that the people who regularly show up to hate the blog and blogger probably enjoy it–hey it might just be a hobby to hate– as much as you enjoy the it when you show up to hate on that fat girl who obviously left a deep scar in that shallow shallow shell of yours when she opened up her fat mouth.

    am i the only one who thinks these raven post are just a way for beet to show wendie the ropes on how to write a fat post and get more than a few hits. i never knew being fat was so popular. i mean shit it could have been posted on tmz but it’s just fuckin raven. who the fuck cares. until i see her in a james bond movie i don’t even wanna know. jennifer hudson might be more relevant. raven doesn’t even register on the disney club lists. all the little hollyweird/dinsey hores are mostly/already in the spot light. what more could you ask for.

  • nah, lots of people teased me about my weight. people of all sizes. it’s just the larger ones tended to be the most persistent and mean.

    and it wasn’t really damaging or scarring to me. i’m not naturally thin… so if i am TRYING to be something, and succeeding at it…. well. it doesn’t really hurt. I am more just annoyed that it is so acceptable to rag on thin people but not fat ones. the double standard clearly bothers me.

    and again, i like arguments in general, but I think, for example, Bean calling Beet a fucking cunt is just ridiculous.

    I like this blog because it’s witty and snarky. i don’t always agree with what she writes, but I don’t think I would waste my time with comments telling her that she was a cunt and a bitch and that I hated her… just because I disagreed with something she wrote.

    I don’t know if any of this would make sense to you. Probably not, because it looks as though you might feel that you have already “figured me out.”

    also.. I just really don’t understand reading something that you hate. It just seems like such a waste of one’s free time. I couldn’t imagine spending hours pouring over post after post, hating each one more than the next, that actually reading comments on said posts…. it’s just crazy

    i’ve been reading this blog forever, and never commenting on it (or reading the comments). it’s kind of addicting like a car crash, but maybe I should stay off the road?

  • or maybe…. i should have said kind of fascinating, like looking at a car crash.. or something… now I just look crazy. like i enjoy smashing up cars… wasn’t there a weird movie about that?

    i digress.

    i think my brain is done.

  • It’s amazing that Raven, who is so obviously aware of her weight problem, doesn’t take efforts to make some life changes. I’ve read in interviews that she says she’s a girl that likes to eat bread and is happy about it. When you sign up to be an actress, you give away your rights to privacy. She’s in the public eye; if she wants to continue to be ‘thick’ then she should realize that she’s going to get continued criticism from people. The same goes for you Beet haters. She’s just doing her job, to provide those criticisms. The world isn’t a happy place full of rainbows and butterflies. It’s a dog eat dog world and if you’re so offended by an opinion someone expressed than you are in definite need of some outside experience.

  • i don’t care about raven. how lame can you possibly get. but i would like to tell thatlisa that i just read this AWESOME book, rant, by the author of fight club (chuck palahniuk) where these people went out crashing cars for fun. (and the main character gave everyone rabies)

  • God Beet, sometimes I wonder how you live with yourself. You’re this mean and nit-picky about people, what must you think about yourself?

    Was a daily fan, but am so over feeling blah everytime I visit your negative site. It stopped being clever a while ago.

    Ciao.

    Delete.

  • ummmm right dr phil. i don’t need to figure you out to comment on just what’s in your posts. pllllllleeeaaaasssee. you must be insecure with your weight if your think it’s only fair that people get to hate on fat girls— because your experience tells you they’re the meanest bunch of lards people leave out. (maybe they’re just too big to take along. too easy to stone.) two insecure cunts don’t make a right.

    i run everyday. i saw raven on Chelsea Lately. raven is BIG. so what. Hollywood is obviously not rewarding her behavior. no matter how proud she is, she will always play the fat girl in a movie. a fat TEEN on the many shows on Disney that feature—you guessed it, fat people cast as fat children–with *most* shows LEAD by thin chicks and girlyboys. fat people, no matter the attitude, will always be something that we don’t want to aspire to be because we see they don’t get very far–unless they lose the weight. the fact that only RECENTLY a few lard-ass broads are always trying to justify their size to be able to fit in with the thin on thin carpets is sending a panic down America’s spine. they see the fat girl pimping her wide ass and love for fired chicken and they see our Fat State of the Union–and they pretend like there’s a link. no no. a handful of large broads with their uppity behavior aren’t responsible for our fat problems–because our fat problems are a result of generational trends which built a society on fast food while watching nothing but *piano legged chicks* proudly strut themselves and their weight size into our home before being fat was even seriously cast in film–and we didn’t even need to get up to change the channel with a handy remote all by our side.

    the thing is fat girls who love their cellulite curves are only saying that to raise awareness-that you need to love your body first amongst all the trends. that’s important for youth to realize—you won’t get very far leading a healthy life if you don’t love yourself first as you are. other wise you will fight an uphill battle when loosing weight.

    anyway. my only point was that you expect so much from the crowd here but you don’t expect much from yourself or beet. stars like to car crash in the public eye to keep relevant. beet enjoys documenting the titillating car crash of the rich and famous (or carb infested nobodies). you enjoy showing up for the titillating car crash. well guess what. the haters show up for the titillating crash too. the only difference is who’s crash you take more enjoyment in watching—beets, blogs, the peons in the pews commenting without rhyme or reason, or the stars in question. we are all on here for the same reason. some times you love them and sometimes you don’t. sometimes you just love to hate them faithfully. that’s why this is a blog–the lowest common denominator of writing and entertainment. (although i will admit beet stands head and shoulders above the competition.) beet called a girl fat. girl called beet a cunt. they’re both right. besides beet is no feminist–so i understand, but even EVIL beet would feel appalled at the thought that some cunt is trying to suppress the usage of words like cunt somewhere–even in reference to her. if you advocate for free speech don’t get all shattered if that free speech is exercised on you while you exercise your free speech. blogs are a beast. naturally.

  • Scroll up a little and read the comment left by ‘Sometimes’.

    They have summed up the situation perfectly.

  • Beet – You used to be funny. Now just catty and mean. I’ve caught typos in your posts as well. No one is perfect, and people make mistakes writing when they are upset.

    Your mean spirit is a turn off. I’m really dissapointed. You haven’t been funny for a while. Count me out too. I won’t read your blog anymore. You have lost the spark made your blog worth reading.

    I’ll miss Leo.

  • Here’s a quick little poll. How many of you readers think that these posters who post that they’re not going to read this blog, in whatever form they choose to type the sentence(s), are going to be lurking, trying to see if anyone will comment on their departures?

  • YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So the three of us got together again last night.

    We do what we normally do.

    We find pictures on the net of Raven and we print them out,

    then cut them out and paste them in a hello kitty book we call

    “CHALKY LARD ASSES OF OUR TIME”

    Then we doodle in glitter over her pics with really positive sayings like:

    “Raven thank god I will never be as fat as you”

    “Raven smells like hot garbage in koreatown alleyways”

    and:

    “Raven Simone would eat a donut out of a homeless man’s dirty asshole”

    We have been waiting for stories like this for years, it’s like a pink colored glamourous Jesus coming down in a disco-robe and giving us all cotton candy lipgloss FOR FREE….

    BEET WE BOW BEFORE YOU.

    T.R.H.O.A.
    Teen Raven Haters of America
    “We who wish her lapbands…. thusly the world peace”

  • Totally agree with Snowbucks and riri -I am finding Beet really sanctamonious lately (oooh I probably spelled that wrong-take it, bitches!). I like catty celebrity blogs but to make the cheeseburger comment at Raven-its just totally a low blow. Its mean and not funny. I couldnt believe what i was reading.
    I’m over this blog. Totally deleting it from my favourites. and Wtf chuck-I dont give a crap if you comment on my departure.
    Dissapointed in you Beet-you act like you’re better than everyone….

  • joan—

    OOh! that book sounds good. I love that author! Choke by him was really good too (I haven’t seen the movie though)… Oh and the movie I was talking about before was called Crash… not the Crash racism movie, but one abut people who like get off with crashing cars.

    awesome. I will look for that book tho! Thanks :)

  • god beefy. i never said that it was only okay to make fun of fat people. I just said that I felt it was far more common and socially acceptable to make negative comments on thin girls. go dr. phil yourself.

    I don’t have the time to read the rest of your post. maybe I will have some free time later on, who knows. I don’t know how much I care.

    I think people should be happy with themselves. Raven obviously isn’t, or she wouldn’t have written a crazy CAPful blog about it.

    I was mostly just trying to say that it was weird to me that SO many people got so upset. I never saw these types of angry comments on posts where beet is talking about a certain star wasting away? it’s just a weird double standard.

    and Raven (as far as I know) has never been like “I like being big.” She was looking for our pity– people in my family have a hard time keep their weight down/ my boyfriend cheated on me etc etc. You know. So it’s different.

    god, and I don’t think all bigger people are gross. I have thin friends, I have overweight friends, I have average friends, I have huge friends. I don’t think it says anything about their character. Although it gets annoying to listen to anyone constantly bitch about their body (whether too big or too small or too untoned, etc) yet never do anything about it.

    role model wise, obesity is a huge epidemic in America. Pretty soon, obesity-related deaths will most likely outnumber smoking-related. It’s a very important issue in our society today.

    bah, that’s it I guess. that’s funny that I didn’t feel like reading your long post, but then ended up going off on my own tangent. It’s cool. You don’t have to read mine either.

  • TRHoA, your comment had my sister and I leaning on eachother for support, we were laughing so much.

    Genius!

  • @ThatLisa

    Lisa– If you didn’t read my response to you–than why the fuck are you responding? What the fuck are you responding to? Do you like the look of your own type.. That’s rhetorical. No Dr.Phil magic. Just logic. Don’t worry I am not offended, and I don’t need your permission to read or not read your post either. Oh, and yes Raven did in fact say she likes to cook, could go to rehab for cooking (while tugging at her chest and stomach), loves to watch people eat, loves to eat, comes from southern fat cooking, loves southern cooking, thinks it’s healthy to eat and go to sleep when eating big holiday meals. She said all that on Chelsea Lately. If you actually read my post you might have surprised me and even thought to Google the interview on You Tube—but I digress. People who pretend to love arguments–rarely get to read this far into a post anyway. Why would they go beyond themselves to learn about the subject matter they are trying to talk about? BTW I see the most important thing to you is obviously defending your ego, because you only read that far into my post. Since I am positive you are not reading my comment anymore by now– saying that “it was far more common and socially acceptable to make negative comments on thin girls” IS borderline excusing this new trend of dumping on the SheShamus of the World. Why devote all of your original post to substantiating the slight towards thin women if you end that original post knowing better than that–it hurts. What purpose does that serve–but throwing fuel into the fire and then backing off just in case you come off too mean. Whatever. You might still not understand haters, or rather, not care to understand others between the me-myself-and-I world your last post to me exists in. So we’re tied. Lastly, it might have occurred to you that thin people are not at a social disadvantaged with all the weight scrutiny directed towards them in these Fat Times– maybe the common place and socially acceptable stoning of thin (compared to fat girls) just supports that fat girls are really at the disadvantage; those who are scrutinized the most are also the ones who were rewarded with the spotlight in the first place. You know Raven got her job at Dinsey first because of her personality, second because she’s got a “cute” ass– I mean face. Therefore, role model wise, obesity is a huge epidemic in America–and it’s interesting to note that majority of the role models people have access to are either thin (TV Movies Music Beauty Ads RunWays) or parents. Personally the fault lies with the people the public is most exposed to—take your choice of poison when it comes to weight issues. There is more to what is making us fat than the unachievable ideal of beauty –thin– we are bombarded with everyday that starts a vicious self-hating cycle, or either unaware or disinterested parenting. There’s also a society built on living too comfortable. Fat stars on the rise are not the problem, they are a symptom of society. You can treat the symptom, but by doing so you don’t get rid of the root of the problem. It might actually be counter productive to get rid of the symptom because the symptom, as is taught in certain non-western traditions of medicine, is a response of the body and you work with it. Like fever-you drink hot tea, and sweat under your bedding to beat the fever. Having fat women, symptom, in Star Land gives us the ability to fight the root cause of the problem—a society bombarded everyday by unattainable thin as beautiful–so society is rarely exposed to fat forget about normal. Therefore society takes their normal for granted and grow large in depression.
    There.
    We agree to disagree.
    Kisses and Hugs.

  • Wow… I have found a new hobby!! Reading the arguments in the comments section of evil beet!! I have decided to announce a winner between the beefy and thatlisa debate…… and the winner… BEEFY!! Although you tend to write ridiculously long responses, they are well thought out. You lost some points when you clearly became outraged at the beginning of the last post, but none the less, well done! I would read your essays in a heartbeat. Thatlisa, you lose because you come off as annoying… annoying and thin.

  • @Dee

    lol. thanks. ima TRY to lay off writing more essays though. : ) beet, if I do this again just block me.

  • sorry I didn’t have time to read the whole post before. I was studying for a midterm. I read the first half, but then of course, I just had to say something, and then went off on a tangent.

    I agree with your 2nd last post about the important message of loving your own body, but just feel that Raven would be a poor example of this- since she never really went on to be like “I think I look great” or “I want to look like this,” rather, she more was just giving excuses for why she got so big.

    Ironically, the whole business with Jennifer Love Hewitt would have been more of a positive message – her whole, screw you guys, I love my curves! And I feel that she always has a beautiful body, curvier or not. But then, I guess she kinda went back on it, lost a bunch of weight too quickly, and then went public about losing weight and feeling great. Oh well.

    But, really, I shouldn’t pretend to know what goes on in Raven’s mind. Maybe she does like being bigger. I wish she would say that. Curves can be more than lovely on a woman (although I think with just her body type, it works against her). I do not only think thin people are beautiful, and I often think that when girls are overly thin, they do look very sick.

    I think I became more inflammatory in my responses, because I was bothered by the fact that you were acting like you “knew me.” Perhaps I was doing the same, especially towards Raven.

    For the record, I never said anything like “Oh I bet you’re fat- that’s why you are arguing me with” or anything like that. You were the one who talked about my own self-image and other negative comments about me. I didn’t call you crazy, or make any assumptions to why I felt you were also getting so angry. The only reason I remained so long is this is because you started attacking me, a mere stranger. I’m insecure, I hate fat people, I am only worried about my ego, I have weight issues, etc. You are the one cursing at me.

    Maybe I took the bait too easily.

    Oh, and @ Dee: I am annoying and thin. That is 100% true.

  • @Anonymous

    Midterms? I miss those. It’s been way too long. I may be wrong but Raven normally dresses and carries herself well—and her message to her target audience, and maybe why she is such a successful franchise, is of having a positive body message. Raven should be allowed the same room to experience life that most girls get in similar circumstances. I assume she made excuses because being already a great deal bigger than a “normal” girl, BEFORE the supposed break up, she really did put on more weight, AFTER the break up; and, even she knows it’s noticeably uncharacteristic weight for her NORMALLY curvaceous body she is generally proud of. So yah maybe it’s lame for a normally body positive person to excuse her new weight gain, but then again I don’t think it strips her of all of her normal role modelesque work. You, yourself, admit that you were inflammatory towards Raven and the topic so you must also understand that I only got to know you through your inflammatory tone. See I don’t know you, but I know what you wrote. If it makes you feel more mature to blame other people for the way you introduced yourself into this conversation, your original posts, on the topic then so be it. I do know a lot of what I wrote was in sarcasm. If you maybe heard ME read what I wrote to you, you’d feel less attacked. But I take responsibility for they way it came off. But please–don’t tell me that I’m acting like I know you and then turn around and act like you know me. Um and there was no biat. Just one wound up voice being responded to and mocked by another.

  • “See I don’t know you, but I know what you wrote. If it makes you feel more mature to blame other people for the way you introduced yourself into this conversation, your original posts, on the topic then so be it.”

    bah, see. that’s exactly what i am talking about.

    you do not know how I feel, yet constantly refer to how I feel. Like, even directly after saying that you don’t know me, you tell me, yet again, how I feel.

    I don’t know you. and altho, yes midterms, young, I am 25. Just fyi. I am not some little teenager, at least. I’m not saying that you are, obviously, but I am not either.

    ..oh and whoops about posting under ‘anonymous’– i wasn’t on my own computer

    I have no idea how I was acting like I knew you. I thought I was just remarking on things that you said to me. directly. not how you thought or felt or anything else. I do not remember remarking on any of those things.

    I like arguing about subjects but once someone who doesn’t know anything about me, besides comments on a blog, starts psycho-analyzing me.. it’s just ridiculous.

    oh and it’s hard to read your posts because you write in one huge uninterrupted block.

  • Raven is a fat-ass,
    Raven has no self-control,
    Raven has nipples the size of dinner plates,
    ThatLisa wins,
    Banana cream pie fat free yogurt is the shiz.

  • Chapstick – agree with ya. I can just see beefy using up all her energy verbally trying to defeat thatlisa, bringing up all her knowledge about everything and all the things she wish she´d said to people into condescending replies – while thatlisa probably just sits there relaxed as fuck, constructively responding to unnecessary personal attacks.

  • Well actually i saw on a site that she had problems with spelling.
    Seriously, i’m not saying this just to stand up for her.
    She said that a game named “Boggle” or something like that helped her with the spelling.
    So I guess that if you had problems with spelling when you were young, you will always make some mistakes in spelling.
    I know you guys won’t believe me and if I give the link no one will go and check it out anyways, so whatever.

  • hahah fucking hell she needs to learn how to SPEAK ENGLISH and the fact that its all in capitals just makes it even more amusing to read as you can picture her chin(s) wobbling as she makes the point that…..shes not fat….just THICK (her own words)

  • you guys really need to get out more… wow shes human.. wow she makes mistakes.. i forget how perfect you guys are… NOT!

  • beet, ur a dumb ass bi*** who obviously has no life. Raven has more money than all u haters and at the end of the day she still gets a check, and what u say doesn’t matter to her. know u must feel bad about yourself to talk about someone else

  • that was so mean. alabama chapstick. she is nice and do have SELFCONTROL BECAUSE HER MOTHER TAUGHT HER, THE RIGHT THING AND HER FATHER. SO, BACK OFF AND LEAVE HER ALONE. BITCH!!!!

  • I’d like to know how ‘Alabama Chapstick’ has even seen Raven Symone’s Nipples, clearly this User is chatting utter bullshit an looks as though they need TYPE control therapy.

    An as for any other nasty comments about Raven Symones weight i would simply lay it down to pure jealousy because yes, she has put a few pounds away but she still looks dame site better then any of you!

  • Wait, wait, wait… remember when she was pregnant a few years ago? Anyone? She was always wearing a ridiculous costume or carrying a box around in front of her on the show, and they were trying to keep it quiet because she was 16 or something. Jamie-Lynn style. But, there’s nothing on the ‘net about this… has Disney changed the official record?

  • Great job! You made an entire post about one mistake in Raven’s use of vocabulary on a damn Myspace blog. I had no idea that things typed on myspace blogs were taken so seriously to the point where they are criticized because they don’t have the ability to be published. This completely shows the difference between you and Raven. She (Raven) is a very successful, young and rich woman. She was taking the time out of her day to connect with her fan base on a personal level, not worrying about her use of grammar and punctuation (its a damn Myspace page by the way). You, on the other hand, have nothing better to do so you make an entire post and the only thing you can bold is ONE word? Find somethin better to do wit ur life. When u got money who gives a damn wat u write like, on a MYSPACE blog at that.

  • O.m.g are you guys serious? Beet you should really get a fucking life you dumb bitch bet you wish you had the type of money Raven has.

  • Beet this is REALLY low. take a look in a mirror, please. raven is beautiful, whereas the words YOU’RE saying are not.

  • What the fuck is your problem bitch?! You may be skinny or thin, but that doesn’t make you any less of a fucking retard! Go out and get a life that doesn’t involve publicly bashing stars that are obviously more talented then the shit you write! Fuck you! Go out and find a new hobby because you SUCK at this one!!

  • What the fuck is your problem bitch?! You may be skinny or thin, but that doesn’t make you any less of a fucking retard! Go out and get a life that doesn’t involve publicly bashing stars that are obviously more talented then the shit you write! Fuck you! Go out and find a new hobby because you SUCK at this one!!