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Nov 05, 2008 at 06:46 am by Wendie
Congratulations to President-elect Barack Obama! It’s definitely a bittersweet day for many as it appears that Proposition 8 in California may pass. I think Prop 8 is about fear more than hate but either way, I just don’t understand it. I’m straight and married…my anniversary is today actually. Why shouldn’t anyone else, gay or straight, be entitled to forget celebrate their wedding anniversary as well? It doesn’t affect me or my life…if love and happiness are the goals, why fight against that? Seriously…don’t we have bigger issues at hand?










































































































My two cents for what it’s worth.
I feel that religious arguments against gay marriage are irrelevant. In America, we have separation of church and state. There is religious marriage (in a place of worship with a religious leader), each religious institution sets the rules for who can marry there (ex: some churches marry homosexual, some don’t.). Then there is civil marriage (state marriage licenses), which corresponds to the rights bestowed on married couples (visitation in hospitals, family insurance, etc.) Why should religious arguments bare standing in a debate over civil marriage?
A counterargument may be that the privileges granted to married couples are made readily available to homosexuals via civil unions/domestic partnerships. Even so, federal benefits are not granted because of DOMA, but I’ll ignore that and assume hypothetically that the unions are equal in terms of rights bestowed. Flashback to the Jim Crows laws and “separate but equal.” While many times facilities for African Americans were inferior to those for whites, it could be possible that say, a water fountain for African Americans worked equally as well as the one for whites. When the Supreme Court overturned Jim Crow, they ruled that the idea of “separate but equal,” hinted at things being inherently unequal, and the undue pain and shame it might have caused to those being separated was alone enough to overturn Jim Crow. Thus, translating this to the marriage today, while marriage and civil unions may be equal on paper, the potential for pain and shame caused by separation is enough to mandate integration.
The whole proposition 8 thing disgusts me to no end… ugh! And happy anniversary Wendie! I think it’s cool your anniversary is on Guy Fawkes Day.
Caz2….. I know… I am a straight female, 25, and ADORE sex with my boyfriend… like way more than anyone should :) oh, and for YEARS of my life, I had many flings…. never any commitment… whatever… so I can understand not wanting to be tied down or whatever….. but I STILL DON’T THINK OTHER PEOPLE SHOULDN’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET MARRIED… even if I don’t want to
I guess I am “gay” too…. cuz I love sex and don’t want to get married.
happy anniversary Wendie :)
oh and sometimes…. yet again…. I SO AGREE WITH YOU. i love your comments
kinky, go on being a slut, that’s awesome for you, whatever. how would you like if someone tried to outlaw you being a slut? or having sex with girls? would that be okay to you?
oh, and I think that you are an idiot. If I haven’t been clear enough in this. and I still cannot help to believe that you are not who you say you are…. and are just completely full of shit and making shit up just for arguments sake….. regardless…. you=GROSS
@kinkykawaii
i think that your strong anti-marriage feelings are preventing you from understanding that this issue boils down to whether minority groups should have equal rights under the law.
so let’s say this proposition was about driver’s licenses. let’s say you don’t want to drive a car yourself. would you support a proposition that eliminated the rights of all gay people in your state to drive a car? (only straight people could drive).
or let’s say this proposition was about owning a home. let’s say you don’t want to own a home yourself. would you support a proposition that eliminated the rights of all gay people to own a home?
i hope this is clearer now, because what we’re talking about is Equal Rights!
Kinky you are a giant cunt.
I am female and gay. I do NOT care how you live your life or how you would like to live your life, but it actually makes me cringe with anger and disapointment that you would say such shite!
It’s not easy growing up in this time being gay and it is horrible not being accepted, you will be aware of this. Us gays have fought for acceptance for soo long and your willing to let your own kind suffer just because you would rather be a silly little slag?
I’d love to settle down and marry a woman one day, so would many other gays men or woman. Just cause it aint for you doesn’t mean we all want to have numerous lovers/sex buddies what ever the fuck you want to call them!
Personally i’d love to ram my fist into your face for being such a selfish bastard!